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    yvanna | 22 | she/her

    LUCIFER DOESN’T DESERVE A REDEMPTION ARC.

    yourfriendlylocalhunter:

    Lucifer is responsible of every bad thing that has ever happened to Sam since he was not even a year old.

    Lucifer tortured Sam for 180 years in the cage. He abused him in every way possible. (I Know Lucifer said in Exodus 13x22 that he lost he’s virginity with Kelly, but that still doesn’t mean that he didn’t rape Sam. I don’t think I have to explain that any further)

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    Lucifer resurrected Sam because he saw an opportunity to get close to Jack, not because he’s good or because he cares about him. It was a selfish act. Sam doesn’t owe him anything.

    Sam had to stay quiet and work with Lucifer so that they could get to the rift on time.

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    Sam had to stay quiet when Jack (the boy he took care of even though is the son of his abuser) wanted to get to know Lucifer.
    Sam had to stay quiet while Lucifer was saying nothing but lies. But even I have to admit that was a good advice for Jack.

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    No, you’re right, Lucifer never lies, he only tells HIS truth.

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    Just look at how he didn’t wanted Gabriel to finish what he was saying, so that Jack wouldn’t listen to all the awful things he did to his brothers, to the Earth and to Heaven.

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    And then when he said this

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    This is a perfect example of how Lucifer manipulates the truth.
    Just before Lucifer was imprisioned in the Cage by Michael, he tried to corrupt Abel and then Cain made a deal with him to save his brother’s soul and condemn his own in exchange. Lucifer told Cain that he was the one who had to kill his brother and when he accepted this condition, Lucifer gave him the Mark.
    The Mark later turned Cain into a demon. Then, he created and trained the Knights of Hell (you remember Abbadon, right?), each one of them choosed personally by Lucifer. While Cain was training the Knights of Hell, Lucifer was busy creating the Princes of Hell; Azazel, Dagon, Asmodeus and Ramiel. Around this time, Lucifer managed to save Ramsey, the only pregnant Hellhound that God couldn’t kill.
    So, If Lucifer was locked away in the Cage, how did he managed to do all this evil for all this centuries? GOOD FREAKIN’ QUESTION.
    After doing all of this atrocities and being imprisioned, Lucifer’s creations still served him, and Azazel was the living proof of that. After discovering the location of Lucifer’s prision, he created the Special Children (babies who were fed with his demon blood, which gave them supernatural abilities.) to break the Cage seals and freed Lucifer.
    But Azazel wasn’t the only one making chaos; Lucifer already created demons, and those demons created other demons. The virus was already out there, all thanks to him. That’s how he managed to do all that evil.

    This isn’t the half of the things Lucifer has done and you know that.

    Remember when he corrupted Lilith’s soul so much that she became a the first demon?

    Remember when he killed his own brother, Gabriel?

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    Or when he did the same thing with his other bother Castiel, twice?

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    Remember when he killed and tortured Rowena, twice?

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    Remember when he pretended to be Kelly’s lover and took sexual advantage of her?

    I could go on and on… 

    So no, Sam wasn’t rude at all for leaving Lucifer in the AU. Sam was brave. He got his revenge, and even that wasn’t enough. Sam deserves to make Lucifer suffer, he deserves to kill him.
    I admit Sam was a little bit naive to leave him there and he obviusly didn’t thought that plan through very well, but I think he did what he thought was the right thing to do. We all know Lucifer is trying to corrupt Jack for he’s own selfish ‘try to conquer the world’ reasons.

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    Just because you find him funny, doesn’t mean he’s one of the good guys.
    Just because the writers try to make him funny and relatable, it doesn’t mean he didn’t do all those awful things.
    Lucifer is not cute, relatable or a poor victim and doesn’t deserve a redemption arc.

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      Oh god, yesWe love Mark P and his brilliant performance in s7, not the real Lucifer. He was funny, highly entertaining...
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      I mean he is the fucking divil and his part was written supremely well for the fact the civil is supposed to be the...
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      Hello? Yes. Thank you! I’ve always found Lucifer Redemption or “he isn’t so bad” Meta stupid. Lucifer plays the victim....
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    10. basicallyacorpse said: Yes